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In the Spirit of Oneness – Worldwide Baba Family Chat on 14th December 2014

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In the Spirit of Oneness
Originating from Meherabad
Sunday, 14th December 2014

Avatar Meher Baba Ki Jai!

You are lovingly invited to the weekly

Worldwide Baba Family Meeting/Internet Chat from Meherabad
Sunday, 14th December 2014
5:00 p.m. – 8:30 p.m. India time.

(Please check Internet for local timings or see below.)


This Sunday we welcome Philip Craeger of Myrtle Beach, South Carolina and Debbie Nordeen of Asheville, North Carolina and Meherabad.

As a Baba-lover who has been coming to India since the 1970s, Philip will share stories of Mani and Mehera in honor of their upcoming birthdays. He is a wonderful storyteller!

Debbie Nordeen (“Daughter D”) of Asheville, North Carolina and Meherabad will join us after 6:30 pm for songs and stories about Baba’s Sister, Mandali member and Chairman of the AMBPPC Trust from 1973-1996 – Manija S. Irani – in honor of Mani’s birthday on 15th Dec.  Debbie and her husband Peter have been part-time residents at Meherabad for many years.  She worked with Mani at the Trust Office in the 1980s and participated in Baba plays and songwriting with Mani’s loving encouragement.  In Asheville, she conducts a Women’s Chorus.  Since Debbie had the inspiration from Beloved Baba to create the Heartland Center in Prague Oklahoma – along with a wonderful team of His lovers - we hope she will speak of this also.

Thanks to Debbie for coming down the Hill to be with us after the weekly sing-along at Beloved Baba’s gaadi, under the tin shed by the Meher Retreat.  She and Carol Gunn lead this activity each week.  Our Heavenly Choir!

We invite our loving Worldwide Family to send us your stories and remembrances about Mani by text, to be read out, or share with us on Skype.


You are invited into the cozy living room at the home of Zahra G. in Meher Colony, down the Hill from Baba's Samadhi (near Prithvi and Meher Prabhu shops).  All are welcome.  Tea will be served; snacks at the interval!


You can watch the webcast and/or join the text Chatroom from anywhere in the world using the following links.

WEBCAST (like TV):






Please add this name to your Skype contacts list if you wish to be called.  Also send your Skype account name to:


when you are ready to be Skyped.
Our meeting opens at 5:00 p.m. with prayers and songs.  The guest speaker usually talks and takes questions from about 5:30 p.m. to 6:30/7:00 p.m.

After a break for refreshments, we have time for Skype interactions and news, stories, comments and questions from around the world.

[Many thanks to the Queen of Chicago (Roberta Lewis), who has been writing these WWBFC/M summaries for the last few months].  

Our guests last Sunday, 7th December 2014, were the Ajolli family, who touched our hearts for the second time (they were also our guests on the previous Sunday) with their experiences of Baba and the expression of their love for Him.

Our musical guest was Pavan Naik, a professional musician from Ahmednagar, who has sung at celebrations in Nagar Centre, Meherabad and in Bhauji’s room.  He is also a music teacher and leads a vibrant, awe-inspiring qawwali group. He accompanied himself on keyboard and was joined by his fellow singer, and sometimes by our Zahra (Queen of Iran) playing the daf (Iranian hand-held drum) and accompanying him with her exquisite, other-worldly, powerful voice.

For the first time in public, Mrs. Rukhmini Alloji (of Hyderabad, now resident in Meherabad) told her story of coming to Baba -. She had previously felt that her heart would become empty if she spoke about her experiences with her Beloved, but because she was asked by us to share these intimate memories, she graciously shared her Love for Him.

She first met Baba in a dream, in her home, while her husband was attending the 1955 Sahavas. Baba came to her with long flowing hair, wearing a white sadra, with a red tilak on His forehead.  When she asked her husband what Baba looked like, he described Him to be just as the One who had come to her in her vision, but minus the tilak.  But when Rukhmini saw Baba for the first time in Sakori, He looked just like He came to her in her vision with the red tilak!

There were a series of incidents that occurred soon after the Sahavas that convinced her heart even more that Baba was God.  One incident concerned a 100 year-old woman who lived near her.  When she inquired why this woman was so often crying out in pain, she was told that she was beaten and ridiculed by her family.  Once when they were having a function, her family even placed the elderly woman out on the road in her bed.  Rukhmini felt so much sympathy for this poor suffering woman that she implored Baba to allow the woman to die right after the function, asking Him why she had to suffer so much.  Four days later the woman died and Rukhmini was exuberant in her deepening experience that Baba was God ("He's God! He's God!”)

After the 1957 Sahavas, Rukhmini, along with her husband, Jagganath, saw Baba at many sahavases, often at Guruprasad in Pune.  Because their time at first with Baba in Pune was so intimate, the small number of followers sitting with Him enabled them to sit so close to their Beloved.  At the first large darshan at Guru Prasad, Rukhmini was feeling so sad because she had to sit far away from Baba.  She was longing for the physical closeness she was used to experiencing with Him, when He motioned to her and her husband to sit close to Him.

Jagganath told of a very special experience He had with Baba during the 1958 Sahavas.  He was volunteering at the Sahavas, as he always did, when Baba announced that he wanted all the lovers from each town to come before Him together.  Jagganath rushed over to where his townspeople were gathered, only to trip on a rope hidden in the ground, landing on his knee and causing him to be unable to move.

Baba took note of His plight and told Dr. Barucha to tend to him, later directing him to take Jagganath to the hospital.  Jagganath implored Dr. Barucha to be allowed to have Baba's private darshan, and Baba agreed to see Jagganath at 6:00 a.m. the next day.

Jagganath left the hospital in a stretcher as he still could not walk.  As the stretcher was brought before Baba, the room was totally silent.  This silence lasted for a while.  This silence was so unusual for Baba.  Everyone was wondering what would happen next.  No one could imagine what Baba might do. 

The silence continued. 

Then Baba slowly lifted his right foot and slowly put it on Jagganath’s chest as he lay on the stretcher.

Jagganath, with tears in his eyes, held fast to Baba's foot, all time seeming to stop for him.  After a while Baba asked him, "Are you satisfied?", which brought more tears to Jagganath’s eyes (and heart).  He could not believe that Baba, God, was asking him if he was satisfied!

When Jagganath feels this experience with Baba, even in the present, what comes to his heart, still, is Baba asking him "Are you satisfied?"

Pavan played the keyboard and sang for us for over half an hour before our guests spoke.  Zahra's house (our Chat Room) became a temple for the Avatar, as Pavan’s ethereal music, swelling up with all the power of an unending wave honoring the Godman Himself, carried into all our hearts as we joined him in his meditation of ecstasy.

Our Skype guests were, first, Lemon Mummy (Betty Lowman) from Oregon, who spoke of her appreciation of the ethereal quality of Pavan’s voice and added humor to our chat via her new (bequeathed and large) puppy who was chasing her cat and doing other antics that were unexpected!  She spoke of all the ways she is seeing Baba and Jesus in her life at this holiday time.

Next we spoke with Talk-and-Talk (Charlie) still from El Salvador, although he has sold his beautiful house by the ocean and is preparing to move to Arizona.  He spoke with such intense love and reverence, upon request from the Chat Room, about all the 'pets' from different kingdoms that he has befriended and cared for on his El Salvador property. Baba presence was so poignant as he told us of one 'pet', a frigate bird (a rare bird with a nine-foot wing span) whom he walked with on the beach, carrying her on his shoulders. Looking into the sky, Talk-and-Talk, saw another lone frigate bird circling above.  He raised his head so his bird-friend could see her compatriot in the sky.  Suddenly there were twenty of these rare birds circling and ' dancing' above.  Talk and Talk realized that they had come to say goodbye to the matriarch of their group and his soul companion in bird form.  She died soon after.

We then spoke with Gopal of Cary, North Carolina, who knew our guest speakers as his former neighbours in India, and who also knew our guest musician (from YouTube!) He sang a song that filled our hearts with Baba and told us about his new baby grandchild born just three weeks before.

Our last guest was Doctor Jim, Dancing Mummy Robin's husband, who also spoke of a new grandchild, a baby boy, born around the same time as Gopal's grandchild.  Upon request both will show us photos next Chat.

Avatar Meher Baba Ki Jai!

In Beloved Baba’s Love, 

From all the Chatwallas


Each week we try to invite a guest who has had personal contact with Beloved Meher Baba to share stories of meeting or being with Him.  There is a rich treasury of Baba-lover souls who visit or reside in Meherabad area to be tapped!  Musicians, dancers, poets, or artists are also invited.  We hope to retain the spirit of oneness, joy, and intense focus on Baba that prevailed in dearest Bhauji's chats. You are always welcome!  

Jai Meher Baba!
MAILING LIST:  Send email to newshivalist*at*jaibaba*dot*com with Subscribe, Unsubscribe or Change in Subject line.

To protect our subscribers, all emails from newshivalist*at* jaibaba*dot* com will have "Worldwide Baba Family" in the subject line.  If the email does not, PLEASE DELETE IMMEDIATELY.


We are still looking for a new Chat/Meetingwalla to replace the irreplaceable (and irrepressible!) Wise Shev, now fulfilling his duties on the other side of the curtain, to send out the Chat transcripts to those who would like to receive them.

If you might interested please email:


Basically you would be sent the transcript every week to be relayed to ~30 people and your service would be very much appreciated.


Send email to meherabadworld*at*gmail.com


We are now using a commercial streaming webcast service.  Registration is required, and although there is a commercial at the beginning and a few commercials interspersed throughout, the broadcast stream audio and video quality is usually extremely high.
Note:  we hope to upgrade soon to a commercial-free service.

To register, click on


Click on Log in/Sign Up on right top of screen.

On the right bottom of the screen will be the message, "If no account, sign up."  Select option:

"To sign in with email or user name."

[DO NOT select the "Faster" option to sign in with Facebook.  This seems to block the JaiBaba.com Chatroom, making it impossible to follow the text transcription.].

Once you are registered, for the Worldwide Baba Family channel, go to



TO LOG ON, Click on:


Or, copy and paste URL into your browser

Follow the instructions on the Welcome to the Worldwide Baba Family Meeting from Meherabad home page:

1. Nickname: Type the name that you want to use in the chat room.

2. Text Color: Choose a color for your messages. The default is black.

3. [Join Chat]: Just click this button to enter the chat room!

4. Remember Settings: Check this to set a cookie which stores your nickname and Text Color for future log-ons.

5.  Whenever you wish to post a message to the chat, type your message in the box, then press Enter (or click Update).  Messages appear on the screen in reverse order.

NOTE: This chat is logged, and any rude behavior can result in the user being permanently banned from the chat room.

If you receive the error message:

"Alert! The URL that you used to access this chatroom may cause
errors. Please log in again, using


your computer is probably set to reject cookies from this domain.

Check the Internet for:

"Setting [insert the name of your browser, Internet Explorer, Mozilla, Apple, etc. without these brackets] to accept cookies"

and follow the instructions you find

Click off Remember Settings and try logging back in.


You can join us via Skype at our new account. Our new Skype name is:


Please add this address to your Skype contacts if you wish to join us in this way.

Note:  even if you were a regular Skype contact during the Bhau Chats, please re-send your Skype account name to

Meherabadworld *at* gmail *dot* com

After you sign onto Skype, please wait for the Chat Team to call you.


It causes serious interruption during the Chat.

Once you logged onto Skype, we can see that you have signed in.  But we do not know whether your computer has simply been turned on or if you actually seated in front of the computer and are ready for a Skype-Video-Call.

Therefore, please send us a Skype TEXT message to let us know that you are ready for a Skype call.


In the main Skype screen, click on Meherabad.Meeting.  You will see a little icon that reads:


* Click on this SMS icon
* Then type "I am [your name], and I am Skype-able." (Please do not type anything else.)
*Press ENTER (or Click the little blue Message icon at the right of the text window)

If you can't send a Skype message, please send a message through the jaibaba.com Text Chatroom.

You do not have to do anything further until we call you.



icons at the top of the screen.


When you receive the TONES and FLASHING icon that indicates we are is calling you
* Click on the


icon at the top of the screen

* WAITING TIME:  There may be a few moments while you are waiting for us to finish with someone else.  During that time, the sound from the Chat Room will be muted.  While you wait, you may see the host team on the Webcast and continue reading the text Chat


* When your Skype picture moves to the host team

IMMEDIATELY TURN OFF YOUR WEBCAST! (Otherwise there is audio interference)

You can now TALK & LISTEN to all of us in Zahra's house!

After we hang up, you can resume watching the Webcast.



Honolulu: 1:30 a.m. - 5:00 a.m.
Anchorage: 2:30 a.m. - 6:00 a.m.
Las Vegas: 3:30 a.m. - 7:00 a.m.
Los Angeles, San Francisco, Seattle, Vancouver: 3:30 a.m. - 7:00 a.m.
Calgary, Denver, Edmonton, Phoenix, Salt Lake City: 4:30 a.m. - 8:00 a.m.

Chicago, Dallas, Guatemala, Houston, Managua, Mexico City, Minneapolis, New Orleans, San Salvador, Tegucigalpa, Winnipeg: 5:30 a.m. - 9:00 a.m.
Atlanta, Bogota, Boston, Columbus, Detroit, Havana, Indianapolis, Kingston, Lima, Miami, Montreal, Nassau, New York, Ottawa, Philadelphia, Toronto, Washington DC: 6:30 a.m. - 10:00 a.m.
Caracas: 7:00 a.m. - 10:30 a.m.
Halifax, La Paz, San Juan, Santo Domingo: 7:30 a.m. - 11:00 a.m.
St. John's: 8:00 a.m. - 11:30 a.m.

Asuncion*, Buenos Aires, Santiago*: 8:30 a.m. - 12:00 Noon
Brasilia*, Montevideo*, Rio de Janeiro*, São Paulo*: 9:30 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. (13:00)
Accra, Casablanca, Dublin, Lisbon, London, Reykjavik: 11:30 a.m. - 3:00 p.m. (15:00)
Algiers, Amsterdam, Barcelona, Belgrade, Berlin, Brussels, Budapest, Copenhagen, Frankfurt, Kinshasa, Lagos, Madrid, Oslo, Paris, Prague, Rome, Stockholm, Vienna, Warsaw, Zagreb, Zürich: 12:30 p.m. (12:30) - 4:00 p.m. (16:00)
Amman, Ankara, Athens, Beirut, Bucharest, Cairo, Cape Town, Harare, Helsinki, Istanbul, Jerusalem, Johannesburg, Kyiv, Sofia, Tallinn: 1:30 p.m. (13:30) - 5:00 p.m. (17:00)

Addis Ababa, Antananarivo, Baghdad, Dar es Salaam, Doha, Khartoum, Kuwait City, Minsk, Moscow, Nairobi, Riyadh: 2:30 p.m. (14:30) - 6:00 p.m. (18:00)
Karaj, Tehran: 3:00 p.m. (15:00) - 6:30 p.m. (18:30)
Dubai: 3:30 p.m. (15:30) - 7:00 p.m. (19:00)
Kabul: 4:00 p.m. (16:00) - 7:30 p.m. (19:30)
Islamabad: 4:30 p.m. (16:30) - 8:00 p.m. (20:00)

Karachi, Lahore, Tashkent: 4:30 p.m. (16:30) - 8:00 p.m. (20:00)
Bangalore, Kolkata, Mumbai, New Delhi: 5:00 p.m. (17:00) - 8:30 p.m. (20:30)
Kathmandu: 5:15 p.m. (17:15) - 8:45 p.m. (20:45)
Almaty, Dhaka: 5:30 p.m. (17:30) - 9:00 p.m. (21:00)
Yangon: 6:00 p.m. (18:00) - 9:30 p.m. (21:30)

Bangkok, Hanoi, Jakarta: 6:30 p.m. (18:30) - 10:00 p.m. (22:00)
Beijing, Hong Kong, Kuala Lumpur, Manila, Perth, Shanghai, Singapore, Taipei: 7:30 p.m. (19:30) - 11:00 p.m. (23:00)
Seoul, Tokyo: 8:30 p.m. (20:30) - 12:00 Midnight
Darwin: 9:00 p.m. (21:00) - 12:30 a.m.
Brisbane: 9:30 p.m. (21:30) - 1:00 a.m.

Adelaide*: 10:00 p.m. (22:00) - 1:30 a.m.
Canberra*, Melbourne*, Sydney*: 10:30 p.m. (22:30) - 2:00 a.m.
Anadyr: 11:30 p.m. (23:30) - 3:00 a.m.
Auckland*, Suva*: (0:30) - 4:00 a.m.
Kiritimati: (1:30) - 5:00 a.m.

* = Daylight Savings/Summer Time

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